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  • Gateway Baptist Church
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  • Joe Kennedy

  • Joe Thorn

  • Joel Rainey

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  • Kevin Bussey

  • Kevin Sanders

  • Kiki Cherry

  • Marty Duren

  • Micah Fries

  • Missional Baptist

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  • Rick Thompson

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  • Tad Thompson

  • Tim Sweatman

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  • Wade Burleson

  • Wes Kinney

Notes

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February 21, 2007

Nearing End Game . . .

Update: Thom Rainer, president of Lifeway nicely sums up the thrust of my post HERE , if you want to know where I am going with this.

                                                                                          

According to a recent article in the Florida Baptist Witness, there is apparently a growing charismatic movement in the SBC that would seek to have the SBC become charismatic. I got that from the writings of James Smith and his interview with Paige Patterson. I wrote a very long post disputing that premise point by point, but I am not going to post it because I was angry and frustrated with the falsehoods that I continue to see in print. But, I am just going to say that Patterson and Smith are wrong. There is no charismatic movement in the SBC. They are wrong about the place that history should have in the way we read the Bible as well. Scripture should be our guide. All that anyone wants is for missionaries to not be eliminated because they have a private prayer language and for our entities to not go beyond the Baptist Faith & Message. That is all that Dwight McKissic, who was extensively addressed in that article, wants. I know because I called him and asked him. He only wants liberty for those who have different views on this non-essential doctrine. It is really exhausting and discouraging when you write, work, and pray for things to just return to how they were before some new, arbitrary policies were written up, and you have other people make a case that you are trying to bring about a charismatic movement. If one started, I wouldn’t join it. I want to follow Jesus holistically, and not some doctrines or teachings that lift out certain aspects of the Christian life. But, we are where we are not because a bunch of charismatics (which I am not) tried to bring their doctrine into the SBC. We are where we are because some other people wanted to push folks out who were a little different from them. That is wrong, in my opinion, and it should be opposed.

                                                                                                                                          

But, I truly do not want to add to the incredible amount of stuff written on blogs in regard to Southern Baptist controversies. Unfortunately, I have already added more than I ever wanted to.  It is a controversy with no end, and even when it seems over, it is never really over. My time commenting and dealing with any of this is nearing an end. I know that I have said that in different places, but talking about this stuff is neither enjoyable nor exciting for me. It all makes me very sad. I have learned things about corruption and power mongering that I never wanted to know. I have learned that many things are not what they appear to be in our churches and convention. I have learned that the SBC and many of our churches are in desperate trouble and there is mind boggling waste involving our Cooperative Program giving. We need to be praying more than we blog, that is for sure, because only God can do anything with this mess.

Last weekend, I went to the Baptist Identity Conference at Union University. I really felt led to go and I am glad that I did. I saw a glimmer of hope in speakers like David Dockery, Timothy George, Ed Stetzer, and Mike Day. I also think that we are a long way away from being where we need to be as a denomination. That opinion was reinforced, in that all of those men said the same thing. We desperately need Jesus and we need to represent Him and follow Him in all that we do. We need to be missional because He is. We need to practice what we preach because that is what He does.

Being Consistent

I am sick of the controversy. I am sick of Christians arguing and fighting over things that make no difference. We should be kind to one another. We should build one another up. If someone does something to us, we should confront them privately, not in public. We should deal honestly with one another. We should hang out with people who do the same. A friend of mine recently emailed me about questioning how we behave toward one another when we disagree. I was really affected by his words. I pray that in every way, whether we agree with one another or not, we will seek to honor Christ and act in love. At the end of the day, so many of these controversies are out of our control. We must trust God. We must look to Christ and ask Him to live through us.

I have tried to deal with issues within my denomination with integrity and honesty. I have tried to limit my comments to theological and missiological issues. I do not want to talk about personalities in any type of negative way. But, I find that it is difficult, when dealing with problems, to not let them get to you. I am praying fervently that the IMB overturns the two policies on private prayer language and baptism. I am praying that we will deal honestly with one another in all things. I pray that many come to know the Lord through the ministry of Southern Baptist churches. But, I am not Southern Baptist before I am a Christian. I am a Jesus follower, I hope, first and foremost. That needs to be the main thing.

So with that, I have nothing left to publicly say on these issues. I have made my case and said all that is prudent. In either March or May when the IMB ad hoc committees that were set up to review the private prayer language and baptism issues come back, I will comment on that. We are nearing “end game.” This has to end sometime. For me, it ends completely at the SBC Annual Meeting in June in San Antonio. But, my comments on problems in our denomination will be few and far between until then. So, if you come here looking for thoughts on denominational issues, you will have a little more time on your hands from now on. Beyond the convention where things should be dealt with if we have any integrity at all, I do not see myself very involved in the future of Southern Baptist ministry or missions on a personal level, unless things change significantly.

I’m going to keep writing. I am going to India next week to tell people about Jesus, so I'll let you know how that goes. I’ll continue to write about where I see the Father at work in the world around me. I’ll have a post up about Caelan this week (he is doing great!). I will write about God, the Bible, my church, missions, culture, theology, politics, sports, my family, and the Kingdom of God. If you are interested in that, I hope you continue to visit and leave comments. If you are primarily interested in SBC controversies, I invite you to take your curiosity somewhere else. There are plenty of places that major in that topic, and I will continue to visit there from time to time. But, as for Downshoredrift, it is time for me to refocus.

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I have been feeling much the same way the past few weeks, and I am happy to see you move on from these fruitless arguments/controversies. It have become quite apparent to me that either side has no wishes of compromising or working out. I've been very sick of the us versus them mentality that I've seen in many of the other blogs. Jesus is definately bigger than our petty SBC infighting.

Looking forward to what lies ahead, Alan.

Blessings on your trip.

Enjoy your time in India. If you hear or see any Indian Christian ashrams, please blog it or let me know. I am very interested in them. Peace.

Alan,

It is already the end for me. I'm done. But we all need to somehow continue to work together because we can't go at this alone.

Blessings on your trip!

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